How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Is there a possibility that we are living in a simulation and that there is a concept of rebirth?

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Why do I feel worthless most of the time?

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Can you explain the difference between God and atma according to the Bhagavad-Gita?

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

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ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

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There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

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Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

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ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Why do men like to suck another man’s dick?

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

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For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Kabir (a weaver)

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Now here in this verse

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

NOW…

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Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Sain (a barber)

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

then who is there to know what happens without?

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

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With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

I am like a fish out of water,

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

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You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

CONCLUSION:

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Raamaanand Jee, First House: